Ret-prot Paladin Pre-Raid Best in Slot in WoW Forever
Engine a667dce84 · Client data 1.60.1.70425 · Talents on 70707 · Provisional
Pre-raid best in slot for Ret-prot Paladin: the gear our Undead Ret-prot hybrid tank 0/21/30 (Experimental) reference build wears, the set the MythicSim tier list and trinket boards sim at 666 DPS without trinkets and 698 DPS with its best trinket pair. Each slot names where the item comes from.
- Phase
- Pre-raid
- Status
- Provisional
- Without trinkets
- 666 DPS
- With trinkets
- 698 DPS
- Hidden stats
- 4 of 15
- Race
- Undead
Pre-raid best in slot
| Slot | Item | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Head |  Stalwart HelmItem level 61 · Lesser Arcanum of VoracityCrafted · Blacksmithing | Crafted · Blacksmithing |
| Neck |  Mark of FordringItem level 63 · Spell PowerQuest · In Dreams | Quest · In Dreams |
| Shoulders |  Lightforge SpauldersItem level 60Dungeon · The Beast, Blackrock SpireDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · The Beast, Blackrock SpireDrop unconfirmed |
| Back |  Arcanoweave CloakItem level 65 · AgilityVendor · Pix Xizzix, Stranglethorn Vale (Tarnished Undermine Reals) | Vendor · Pix Xizzix, Stranglethorn Vale (Tarnished Undermine Reals) |
| Chest |  Lightforge BreastplateItem level 63 · Greater StatsDungeon · General Drakkisath, Blackrock SpireDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · General Drakkisath, Blackrock SpireDrop unconfirmed |
| Wrists |  Battleborn ArmbracesItem level 63 · Greater SpellpowerDungeon · Warchief Rend Blackhand, Blackrock SpireStats hiddenDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · Warchief Rend Blackhand, Blackrock SpireStats hiddenDrop unconfirmed |
| Hands |  Justicar's GlovesItem level 55 · Holy PowerCrafted · Blacksmithing | Crafted · Blacksmithing |
| Waist |  Lightforge BeltItem level 58Dungeon · StratholmeDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · StratholmeDrop unconfirmed |
| Legs |  Champion's LegplatesItem level 61 · Lesser Arcanum of VoracityCrafted · Blacksmithing | Crafted · Blacksmithing |
| Feet |  Battlechaser's GreavesItem level 55 · Greater AgilityDungeon · Blackrock DepthsStats hiddenDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · Blackrock DepthsStats hiddenDrop unconfirmed |
| Ring 1 |  Don Julio's BandItem level 60Reputation · Thanthaldis Snowgleam, Stormpike Guard reputation (Alterac Valley) or Jekyll Flandring, Frostwolf Clan reputation (Alterac Valley) | Reputation · Thanthaldis Snowgleam, Stormpike Guard reputation (Alterac Valley) or Jekyll Flandring, Frostwolf Clan reputation (Alterac Valley) |
| Ring 2 |  Eye of OrgrimmarItem level 60Quest · The Princess Saved? | Quest · The Princess Saved? |
| Trinket 1 |  Adaptive Combat AssistantTier list trinket pairVendor: Pix Xizzix | |
| Trinket 2 |  Briarwood ReedTier list trinket pairJed Runewatcher, Blackrock Spire | |
| Main hand |  IronfoeItem level 60 · CrusaderDungeon · Emperor Dagran Thaurissan, Blackrock DepthsStats hiddenDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · Emperor Dagran Thaurissan, Blackrock DepthsStats hiddenDrop unconfirmed |
| Off hand |  Dreadguard's ProtectorItem level 62Dungeon · Lord Hel'nurath, Dire MaulStats hiddenDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · Lord Hel'nurath, Dire MaulStats hiddenDrop unconfirmed |
| Ranged |  Sentinel's LibramItem level 65Vendor · Pix Xizzix, Stranglethorn Vale (Tarnished Undermine Reals) | Vendor · Pix Xizzix, Stranglethorn Vale (Tarnished Undermine Reals) |
Raid best in slot
No raid is open in WoW Forever yet, so the pre-raid list above is the best in slot a Ret-prot Paladin can wear today: dungeon drops, crafted gear, pre-raid quest rewards and Tarnished badge vendor items. Raid best in slot is added to this page, beside the pre-raid list, once the first raid opens and its loot is simmed.
Talents
Talents 0/21/30View tree
Holy 0
No points
Protection 21
Redoubt 5/5
Precision 3/3
Sacred Duty 2/2
Templar's Bulwark 1/1
Shield Specialization 2/2
Toughness 2/5
Swift Judgement 1/1
Improved Righteous Fury 3/3
Anticipation 1/5
Holy Shield 1/1
Retribution 30
Deflection 4/5
Benediction 5/5
Improved Judgement 2/2
Conviction 3/3
Sanctified Judgement 3/3
Vindication 3/3
Seal of Command 1/1
Sacred Arbiter 1/1
Vengeance 3/3
Champion of the Light 5/5
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How this list is made
Every slot is the item our reference search measured best for Ret-prot Paladin on the MythicSim Forever engine, 10,000 iterations against a level 63 raid boss, among gear a level 60 character can get before the first raid: dungeon drops, crafted gear, pre-raid quest rewards (your faction's version) and items from the Tarnished badge vendor. Raid drops, reputation upgrades and later recipes stay out, with a few named exceptions such as the Arathi Basin staff.
It is the same gear the Ret-prot row of the tier list and the trinket board use, so every number on those pages is simmed on this set. Your own best gear depends on what you already own: paste your character into Forever Quick Sim and use Best Gear to compare your bags.
Item stats and sources come from engine a667dce84, which models Forever client data 1.60.1.70425. Items marked Stats hidden have Forever stats Blizzard has not revealed yet, so the sim uses their Classic stats.
Frequently asked questions
What is the pre-raid BiS for Ret-prot Paladin in WoW Forever?
Weapons: Ironfoe (main hand, Emperor Dagran Thaurissan, Blackrock Depths); Dreadguard's Protector (off hand, Lord Hel'nurath, Dire Maul); Sentinel's Libram (ranged, Pix Xizzix, Stranglethorn Vale (Tarnished Undermine Reals)). Armor and jewelry: Head Stalwart Helm, Neck Mark of Fordring, Shoulders Lightforge Spaulders, Back Arcanoweave Cloak, Chest Lightforge Breastplate, Wrists Battleborn Armbraces, Hands Justicar's Gloves, Waist Lightforge Belt, Legs Champion's Legplates, Feet Battlechaser's Greaves, Ring 1 Don Julio's Band, Ring 2 Eye of Orgrimmar. Trinkets: Adaptive Combat Assistant and Briarwood Reed. It is the gear the MythicSim Ret-prot reference build wears, 666 DPS without trinkets.
Which dungeons drop Ret-prot Paladin pre-raid BiS gear?
Blackrock Spire (3 items), Blackrock Depths (2 items), Dire Maul (1 item), Stratholme (1 item). 3 more pieces are crafted.
Is there a raid BiS list for Ret-prot Paladin in WoW Forever?
Not yet. No raid is open in WoW Forever, so pre-raid gear is the best a character can wear. Raid best in slot is added to this page once the first raid opens and its loot is simmed.
Why are some items marked Stats hidden?
Blizzard reveals an item's Forever stats only once it has dropped on a live server. 4 of the 15 items on this list have not been revealed yet, so the sim uses their Classic stats, and those picks can change once the real stats are known.