Subtlety Rogue Pre-Raid Best in Slot in WoW Forever
Engine a667dce84 · Client data 1.60.1.70425 · Talents on 70707 · Provisional
Pre-raid best in slot for Subtlety Rogue: the gear our Night Elf Hemorrhage reference build wears, the set the MythicSim tier list and trinket boards sim at 889 DPS without trinkets and 918 DPS with its best trinket pair. Each slot names where the item comes from.
- Phase
- Pre-raid
- Status
- Provisional
- Without trinkets
- 889 DPS
- With trinkets
- 918 DPS
- Hidden stats
- 2 of 15
- Race
- Night Elf
Pre-raid best in slot
| Slot | Item | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Head |  Shadowcraft CapItem level 62 · Lesser Arcanum of VoracityDungeon · Darkmaster Gandling, ScholomanceDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · Darkmaster Gandling, ScholomanceDrop unconfirmed |
| Neck |  Mark of FordringItem level 63 · AgilityQuest · In Dreams | Quest · In Dreams |
| Shoulders |  Shadowcraft SpauldersItem level 60Dungeon · Cannon Master Willey, StratholmeDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · Cannon Master Willey, StratholmeDrop unconfirmed |
| Back |  Cape of the Black BaronItem level 63 · AgilityDungeon · Baron Rivendare, StratholmeDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · Baron Rivendare, StratholmeDrop unconfirmed |
| Chest |  Dawn ArmorItem level 61 · Greater StatsCrafted · Leatherworking | Crafted · Leatherworking |
| Wrists |  Shadowcraft BracersItem level 57 · AgilityDungeon · Instructor Malicia, Scholomance; StratholmeDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · Instructor Malicia, Scholomance; StratholmeDrop unconfirmed |
| Hands |  Devilsaur GauntletsItem level 58 · Greater AgilityCrafted · Leatherworking | Crafted · Leatherworking |
| Waist |  Shadowcraft BeltItem level 58Dungeon · Blackrock SpireDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · Blackrock SpireDrop unconfirmed |
| Legs |  Devilsaur LeggingsItem level 60 · Lesser Arcanum of VoracityCrafted · Leatherworking | Crafted · Leatherworking |
| Feet |  Shadowcraft BootsItem level 59 · Greater AgilityDungeon · Rattlegore, ScholomanceDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · Rattlegore, ScholomanceDrop unconfirmed |
| Ring 1 |  Tarnished Elven RingItem level 61Dungeon · Tribute, Dire MaulDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · Tribute, Dire MaulDrop unconfirmed |
| Ring 2 |  Don Julio's BandItem level 60Reputation · Thanthaldis Snowgleam, Stormpike Guard reputation (Alterac Valley) or Jekyll Flandring, Frostwolf Clan reputation (Alterac Valley) | Reputation · Thanthaldis Snowgleam, Stormpike Guard reputation (Alterac Valley) or Jekyll Flandring, Frostwolf Clan reputation (Alterac Valley) |
| Trinket 1 |  Royal Seal of Eldre'ThalasTier list trinket pairQuest: Garona: A Study on Stealth and Treachery | |
| Trinket 2 |  Adaptive Combat AssistantTier list trinket pairVendor: Pix Xizzix | |
| Main hand |  IronfoeItem level 60 · CrusaderDungeon · Emperor Dagran Thaurissan, Blackrock DepthsStats hiddenDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · Emperor Dagran Thaurissan, Blackrock DepthsStats hiddenDrop unconfirmed |
| Off hand |  FelstrikerItem level 63 · CrusaderDungeon · Warchief Rend Blackhand, Blackrock SpireStats hiddenDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · Warchief Rend Blackhand, Blackrock SpireStats hiddenDrop unconfirmed |
| Ranged |  Satyr's BowItem level 58Dungeon · Zevrim Thornhoof, Dire MaulDrop unconfirmed | Dungeon · Zevrim Thornhoof, Dire MaulDrop unconfirmed |
Raid best in slot
No raid is open in WoW Forever yet, so the pre-raid list above is the best in slot a Subtlety Rogue can wear today: dungeon drops, crafted gear, pre-raid quest rewards and Tarnished badge vendor items. Raid best in slot is added to this page, beside the pre-raid list, once the first raid opens and its loot is simmed.
Talents
Talents 12/8/31View tree
Assassination 12
Malice 5/5
Ruthlessness 3/3
Improved Slice and Dice 3/3
Blood Splatter 1/1
Combat 8
Coup de Grace 3/3
Efficient Strikes 2/2
Precision 3/3
Subtlety 31
Opportunity 5/5
Dirty Deeds 2/2
Improved Ambush 3/3
Dirty Tricks 1/2
Initiative 3/3
Premeditation 1/1
Serrated Blades 3/3
Elusiveness 2/2
Ghostly Strike 1/1
Heightened Senses 2/2
Preparation 1/1
Hemorrhage 1/1
Boot Knife 5/5
Death Mark 1/1
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How this list is made
Every slot is the item our reference search measured best for Subtlety Rogue on the MythicSim Forever engine, 10,000 iterations against a level 63 raid boss, among gear a level 60 character can get before the first raid: dungeon drops, crafted gear, pre-raid quest rewards (your faction's version) and items from the Tarnished badge vendor. Raid drops, reputation upgrades and later recipes stay out, with a few named exceptions such as the Arathi Basin staff.
It is the same gear the Subtlety row of the tier list and the trinket board use, so every number on those pages is simmed on this set. Your own best gear depends on what you already own: paste your character into Forever Quick Sim and use Best Gear to compare your bags.
Item stats and sources come from engine a667dce84, which models Forever client data 1.60.1.70425. Items marked Stats hidden have Forever stats Blizzard has not revealed yet, so the sim uses their Classic stats.
Frequently asked questions
What is the pre-raid BiS for Subtlety Rogue in WoW Forever?
Weapons: Ironfoe (main hand, Emperor Dagran Thaurissan, Blackrock Depths); Felstriker (off hand, Warchief Rend Blackhand, Blackrock Spire); Satyr's Bow (ranged, Zevrim Thornhoof, Dire Maul). Armor and jewelry: Head Shadowcraft Cap, Neck Mark of Fordring, Shoulders Shadowcraft Spaulders, Back Cape of the Black Baron, Chest Dawn Armor, Wrists Shadowcraft Bracers, Hands Devilsaur Gauntlets, Waist Shadowcraft Belt, Legs Devilsaur Leggings, Feet Shadowcraft Boots, Ring 1 Tarnished Elven Ring, Ring 2 Don Julio's Band. Trinkets: Royal Seal of Eldre'Thalas and Adaptive Combat Assistant. It is the gear the MythicSim Subtlety reference build wears, 889 DPS without trinkets.
Which dungeons drop Subtlety Rogue pre-raid BiS gear?
Scholomance (3 items), Blackrock Spire (2 items), Dire Maul (2 items), Stratholme (2 items), Blackrock Depths (1 item). 3 more pieces are crafted.
Is there a raid BiS list for Subtlety Rogue in WoW Forever?
Not yet. No raid is open in WoW Forever, so pre-raid gear is the best a character can wear. Raid best in slot is added to this page once the first raid opens and its loot is simmed.
Why are some items marked Stats hidden?
Blizzard reveals an item's Forever stats only once it has dropped on a live server. 2 of the 15 items on this list have not been revealed yet, so the sim uses their Classic stats, and those picks can change once the real stats are known.